There are people who have been cured of cancer simply by taking massive doses of Vitamin C intravenously. You can use alternative means to produce the same results as anti-biotics (which often do more harm than good, especially for women). And eliminating dairy will alleviate much of the sinus problems a person might have.

Did I see the word malpractice thrown around on here somewhere? I mean, Cancer. The cure for Cancer is not an overdoes of Vitamin C. If it worked that’s great, however, I think that advising this over traditional methods…along with, sure…instead of…I don’t think that is very responsible.

One can probably find a natural solution for almost anything. Generally the ones the Doctors are prescribing work better. I say this as a person who has investigated almost every natural remedy for every problem I have ever occurred. I figure somewhere along the line it might work better and be cheaper. For what it is worth, Banana is great for the skin. Beyond that, I have very little success topping medical science, which probably doesn’t surprise most people. I’m a little odd sometimes. Green Tea, they just found out, has little to know medicinal qualities. I give personally. I’ll take the pill, with all of its side effects. Afterall, I don’t like the side effects of my inhaler and I have to use that.

Lauren writes, “Naral and Planned Parenthood are two of the best things to ever happen to women.”

I dated a woman who put her trust in Planned Parenthood. After her abortion she spent four seeing a therapist because of it. I found out only after we went to a family party together, out of the blue she just started sobbing uncontrollably and said, “Why would God ever let me have a baby when I killed mine!”

Where was their compassion? Did Planned Parenthood provide her with the therapy? Did they tell her there is a risk she would feel so consumed with guilt after murdering her own child? Nope!

“Best thing”… I don’t think so.

No, Planned Parenthood doesn’t have a standing tradition of calling women who have abortions murderers, or whores, or assuring them that they still might be saved from the fires of hell. You’re right, it’s probably their fault.

“Why is it so hard for you to believe that a woman could have an abortion and not regret it?”

Because abortion does the following:

It grinds against a mothers own natural instinct to protect her offspring. Even animals protect their offspring. So… Even if you don’t believe in God, you still have to wrestle with this conflict.

Abortion actually damages a woman system for a time (In some cases permanently). Believe it or not a woman’s body is NOT designed to have a baby grinded up or poisoned then pulled out of her.

“WHY AGAIN IS THAT PLANNED PARENTHOOD’S FAULT?”

Malpractice. They should have had a test to prove that she was in fact a sociopath before killing her baby.

The reality is that women who have had abortions regret it. If they didn’t regret it, the abortion issue would always be on the front page of every newspaper. All people intuitively know that women who have had abortions are suffering because of it (Even Lauren). They don’t want to add to their misery. If they didn’t hurt, they would not mind pictures of aborted babies. A picture of a dead baby would extract no emotional response from them a picture of a cardboard box. Don’t you agree?

No, I don’t agree. All women that have abortions do not regret it. I can prove it.

Second, no, all people do not know intuitively that women regret abortions. The lack of the issue on the front page of newspapers is not evidence of this. There are a lot of things that don’t make the fronts of newspapers, or inside the newspapers at all. This is evidence of either what the newspapers are aware of, or of what they believe they can sell.

I don’t know, I mean, Peta and the rest of the animal rights activists are constantly passing out pictures of bunnies that have been scarred by bic or whoever it is they’re after this week, I think it’s gillette usually. Once they passed out flyers to children whose mothers were wearing fur coats that said your mommy is a murderer. It doesn’t mean that buying fur coats is wrong and yet nobody wants that flyer in their childs hand, crazy isn’t it. Nobody wants to see the damaged bunny, yet Shaving cream is needed isn’t it. The pictures mean nothing. Sorry.

Oh, and testing women to see if they are sociopaths? Are you serious? Malpractice?

It’s the 103rd post if you’re interested. I believe 104 contains the response.

Lucy,

“Previously informed” by whom?

Certainly not us.

See here. (Scroll down to comment #40.)

5000, peace!

Huh?

Anyone else want to point out the logical inconsistency here? I’m done arguing with Lauren. She thinks she wins arguments by berating and insulting people to the point that they won’t say anything anymore.

So long, little girl. Good luck with your plans for motherhood someday. And I mean that. Maybe it’ll change your mind about all that we’ve said; maybe you’ll actually find someone who likes being badgered and demeaned by you to the point that he gives in to marrying you. (Oh, sorry - I guess presumed too much when I tried to pigeonhold parenthood into the framework of marriage. Forgive my capital sin against feminism.)

Anyway, have a good life (he said, as he shook the sand of her city from his sandals).

Ummmm.. ok I guess cancer pills trick your cancer too.. in that case in case i get cancer i wont take them … the point that I’m making is that your argument is filled with so many holes I dont know where to begin.

here’s a legit and honest study about BCPs and cancer risk… I know why you didnt post th efact that BCPs actually PREVENT some cancers, it wouldn’t fit your narrow view of the world hence making you a fanatic.

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/91/101127.htm

there’s a legit article…

Cancer Treatment Centers of America offers patients the most sophisticated forms of surgery, radiation, and chemotherapy in combination with complementary therapies that include; nutrition, spiritual support, mind-body medicine, and naturopathic medicine.

HERE”S THE KEY WORDS.. IN COMBINATION.. all of those natural cures are all well and great, but dont you dare, and i mean it dont you dare, question my choice to take birth control pills as a way to decide when I do and dont want to have children. And dont you dare guilt me into some sort of moral argument that I’m ignoring my natural instinct or that oops I might get cancer if I take them.. I dont care if you haven’t called me names. You have insulted my intelligence. That is a MUCH bigger insult than calling you an idiot.

For starters,

I dont smoke. I dont eat a lot of fatty foods. I’ve tanned maybe 20 times my whole life. I put sunscreen on all the time. I dont surround myself with people that smoke, so this idea that I somehow could care less about my well being is wrong. Can you find me this woman who is struggling through breast cancer because of birth control pills? I bet you can’t.

I did not link to a study.You did not open the link, therefore totally missing the point of the article:

WHO’s cancer research group - the International Agency for Research on Cancer - announced yesterday that it had reclassified the pill and hormone replacement therapy from “possibly carcinogenic to humans” to “carcinogenic to humans”.

“What are you saying anyways that breast cancer is the punishment to women for taking birth control? “

No. No more than walking into a burning building increases your chances of getting burned. Or going to school and working hard to and earning a degree is not “punishment” for going to school. Simply that actions have consequences, some bad, some good.

“Don’t assume either that you know MY natural instinct. I’m not an animal. And anyways, some animal mothers actually KILL their babies and that is well-known.”

I didn’t say I knew how you felt, frankly I don’t care to. This was in response to your argument that a man couldn’t possibly state that women naturally desired to be mothers. And I am simply stating that as a woman, and many other woman I know do desire motherhood. Therefore the notion that the idea comes from a man and therefore is not possible, well is wrong. Regardless how you feel, you cannot speak for every woman and say this man is wrong.

“Women should want better from their doctors regardless of your political affiliation than the half assed care of simply prescribing BCPs at every gynecological turn.”

What are you even talking about?

I am talking about your original argument which you are straying from about using BCP’s to treat such disorders as irregular periods, Ovarian cysts, PCOS, endodemetriosis etc…BCP’s simply fool your body into thinking hormone levels have normaled out, but do not treat the underlying pathology. This is what my OB/gyn told me…It has nothing to do with religion.

OK fine, pansy. I hope that you do get one of those awful diseases and I’d love to see you lament the horrible “drugs”.

You are nasty. No one here has disrespected you, called you names, or wished ill on you, just simpy disagreed. Anyway, I have never seen BCP’s as cancer treatment. Nor have I said anywhere that western medicine is a crock, contrary, I mentioned the Cancer Treatment Centers of America:

Cancer Treatment Centers of America offers patients the most sophisticated forms of surgery, radiation, and chemotherapy in combination with complementary therapies that include; nutrition, spiritual support, mind-body medicine, and naturopathic medicine.

The point is to take responsibilty where you can with your health and use what works, and throw out what doesn’t. Carcinogenic drugs IMO don’t classify as “working”, but like you said, it is much more fulfilled life to live off of frozen food, around smokers with wrinkly, nasty, creppy, but tanned skin from tanning and sitting in the sun too long, and are fat with high blood pressure and diabetes from eating too many sweets and are struggling through breast cancer from taking BCPs and not enjoying their could be children and grandchildren.. I gotta hand it to you, I don’t know what I was thinking-that sounds like a sexy life to me.

I bid you peace as I humbly bow out.

The study you are referencing is not without controversy.

The link between cancer and birth control pills has to do with estrogen hormones prior to 1975 when the hormone dosage in pills was quite high. The estrogen in most birth control pills today is actually quite low. I know, because I take them. My body does not take kindly to high doses of pretty much any sort of medicine, so I have to take low-dose.

So the birth control causes cancer aye what about the fact that birth control actually REDUCES the risk of ovarian cancer! That is actually PROVEN. They aren’t sure about the breast cancer birth control link.

What are you saying anyways that breast cancer is the punishment to women for taking birth control?

Don’t assume either that you know MY natural instinct. I’m not an animal. And anyways, some animal mothers actually KILL their babies and that is well-known.

“Women should want better from their doctors regardless of your political affiliation than the half assed care of simply prescribing BCPs at every gynecological turn.”

What are you even talking about? Let’s see if I say to my gyno, I’m having sex and I don’t want to get pregnant you want her/him to say to me, welp you should pray then? OMG. NO! I want him/her to tell me my options for birth control. If you want someone to give you his/her religious take on what you should do to prevent pregnancy see a priest NOT a scientist. KEEP YOUR RELIGION OUT OF SCIENCE!

OK fine, pansy. I hope that you do get one of those awful diseases and I’d love to see you lament the horrible “drugs”. Whatever dude.

I never take antibiotics unless I get a migrane which unfortunately is every few months. I’m not some person that’s like oops my head hurts time for 8 pills. NO, those people are just as silly as you guys.

You know what, why not just go back to bloodletting? That seemed natural.. let’s do it!

Also other noted carcinogens: lean cuisine boxes, the sun, some sugars, 2nd hand smoke, tanning beds. What do you want me to do, avoid the world entirely? Anyways good luck living in your bubble where you’ll starve and desire something sweet and a good tan. Bye bye

“coming from a man, how can you possibly begin to understand a woman’s natural instinct? You are a man, you cannot understand.”

And since you are a woman, you can speak for every woman in saying it is not any woman’s natural instinct to care for her children?

“OK, well when you get cancer, let me know how often you go to your voodoo doctors.

The pill is a noted carcinogen, like cigarettes.

In any event, no one here as far as I can see denies the use of western medicine, just questions using chemicals for treating things that can be dealt with easier and safer, such as diet, exercise. Why pop aspirin for a headache when chances are the reason is due to lack of water consumption? Drink a couple of glasses of water and not only does your headache go away, you did not spend the $$ on chemicals, you did not add unwanted chemicals to your system, and you fixed the problem at the source, not just masked the symptoms. It is the same with using BCPs to mask symptoms in women’s health care. Women should want better from their doctors regardless of your political affiliation than the half assed care of simply prescribing BCPs at every gynecological turn.

The Cancer Treatment Centers rely on both Western medicine as well as nutrition and holistic approaches. I would hope to find a doctor that cured the cancer than rather make the symptoms feel better.

I was giving those women and you the benefit of the doubt. I refuse to believe that you would still support abortion if you know the FACT that it is a human person that is destroyed with every abortion. It was my attempt at being nice.

I also refuse to believe that you really hope that we all get cancer. You probably wish the very best for us. I certainly wish the best for you and all women who have had abortions.