On a side note. I really liked the audio quality of the CDs.”

Joe,

On behalf of PLAL, thanks for the compliments on the CDs. (By the way, they make great Christmas gifts!)

As for the sound quality, for that you can thank LCE Media, a company we’ve hired on several occasions to record events like the CINTA conference.

They do a good job, they’re affordable, and they’re easy to work with.

On a side note. I really liked the audio quality of the CDs. Sometimes when I purchase audio from conferences they don’t turn out very good. If anyone is interested I ordered them from here. https://ssl27.pair.com/ejs/plal/cinta.php

I totally agree. I actually have used the same example that no one cares about culture in adoptions if you have an Irish family adopting an Italian child. When the race is different, then it’s everyone’s business. Sheesh.

“Have these people ever met a homeschooled child?”

No kidding! My nephew is 10 and he is reading books that most 10 year olds wouldn’t even begin to understand. ( the iliad, odyssey for example). Now he is interested in World War2! The thing about homeschooled children is that they seem to be much more interested in learning than public schoolers. I don’t know too many 13 year olds who would want to read Ann Coulter! It’s funny, the guy who made that comment was publicly schooled, which just helps me make my point.

My personal opinion is that our history is our history. Why is it important what color skin someone had? Why can’t a little boy with Latino ancestry want to emulate George Washington? Why can’t a boy with African ancestry want to be just like his white adoptive father? When I was in school we did a living history museum of women (there was not an equivalent one for men). I chose Harriet Tubman and my best friend chose Hatshepsut. She was not Egyptian.

I think that assuming that kids can only look up to and try to be like people with the same skin color is rather racist, and it’s a lot easier to see than how these people are racist just because they have large families (wha?).

My husband and I are pursuing adoption and we do not care what color our baby is. I think one of the biggest reasons so many people request a “white” baby is that so many activists have tried to intimidate “white” parents from adopting “nonwhite” children. There’s a lot of talk about making sure that the child has contact with children or adults of the same race, having a plan to connect that child to his or her culture… but not if you adopt a child with an Italian mother. No requirement to make sure he or she gets to taste lasagne. (Not that any of these are requirements… they are just suggestions. But there are intimations that this could make the difference in whether a birth mother picks you. Oh, and take some pictures of yourselves with racially diverse friends.)

Apparently some people just really, really need to find some way to pick on people who have large families in part for religious reasons. I offer as evidence the fact that they make fun of their sex lives. There’s a headscratcher.

The most inaccurate part of the article, of course, was the tag at the top: “The Christian ‘Quiverfull’ movement measures a mother’s spiritual resolve by the number of children she raises, each one an arrow in the quiver of God’s army.” Where do they get this stuff? Did I miss the part where someone said that you weren’t really quiverfull unless you had at least six kids? Or where someone said that a woman who has fourteen kids is more loved by God than someone who has three? Nowhere do I see the logic that more children means more faith or more of God’s love. The logic that “Children are blessings, so women who can’t have as many aren’t loved by God” is something that only exists in the heads of infertile people. (Trust me, I know what I’m talking about here.)

The quiverfull movement does not hate infertile people. Most of the sites welcome those that have no children or none yet. Those that talk about, say, “1 or 21 kids” are those that focus on parenting. When you see a family with just one child, you don’t know why they have just one child. When you see a church or a society where no one has more than two children, that’s when you can make some assumptions about their views on kids.

The assumptions people on the comments made were ridiculous and untrue–no adoption, racism, drowning disabled kids, forming militias, welfare, irresponsibility, only for religious reasons and not because they love kids…. Oh, and then there’s the assumption that quiverfull people think all their kids should marry and have lots of kids. I do not know whether this was in the comments section or just somewhere commenters linked to, but saying “Well Jesus and Paul didn’t reproduce, were they sinners?” and “The new testament doesn’t have a command to multiply” shows a lack of thought on the issue. (This must not have been the comments page; those there did not seem to have much knowledge of the Bible). To the first: quiverfull people are only saying that one should reproduce within marriage. They are not bashing singleness. The push for children to marry and have kids is much stronger in small families. If Mom has two kids, and two stay single to spread the gospel, that’s bound to be harder than if Mom has eight kids and two decide to stay single. I imagine in large families there’s much less pressure for any one kid to always excel academically or in sports, to go to a specific school, to play an instrument or dance, or otherwise let their parents live vicariously through them. For married people to choose to be childless or drastically limit their numbers of children is in contrary to the Bible, natural law, and societal norms at the time the Bible was written. Paul probably assumed married people would have kids. As for what Jesus said:

“Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me, and whoever receives me, receives not me but him who sent me.”

“Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.”

As you might have guessed, I feel really strongly about this and pretty much consider myself to be “quiverfull” or at least “quiver-minded” (as my quiver is pretty much empty at this point).

To Lauren: you can berate me all you like, and I will read it, but don’t expect me to respond unless there’s something worth responding you. I already expect that if anyone else has anything to say, it will be intelligent and with the intent to edify themselves, me, or others.

To top it off, they home-school their litters. Just perfect. Another way to dumb down an already diminished populations intelligence.
Have these people ever met a homeschooled child?
It’s definitely a race issue, as well. If it weren’t, they’d adopt all the children already here who need parents. Oops, most of those are minority or mixed race. Only Aryans qualify.
So, minorities are only capable of producing unwanted children in need of adopting. A white person never had an unwanted pregnancy, and minorities are incapable of having stable families with a bunch of kids with the one person they married. OK, got it. Yeah, yeah, Godwin’s Law…I’ll shut up.